Conversation with Callum from work yesterday
Me: ``one good thing about taking a two o'Clock break is you can listen to the archers`` *pulls out snazzy new phone*
Callum: ``What's that? O, the thing that goes du dud ud du du er duer``
Me: ``Something like that``
Callum: ``Isn't that some kind of post-apocolyptic dystopic blood battle between the remaining human earthly survivours and the robot aliens who annhailated the planet?``
Me: ``Well, Ambridge. It was set up in the '40s to subliminaly teach the population about crop growth. It's a soap opera set in rural England``
Callum: ``So it's all midddle classed radio four people then?``
Me: ``that was the intention, but there are gays in it now``
Callum: ``Gays can't farm``
Callum: ``What's that? O, the thing that goes du dud ud du du er duer``
Me: ``Something like that``
Callum: ``Isn't that some kind of post-apocolyptic dystopic blood battle between the remaining human earthly survivours and the robot aliens who annhailated the planet?``
Me: ``Well, Ambridge. It was set up in the '40s to subliminaly teach the population about crop growth. It's a soap opera set in rural England``
Callum: ``So it's all midddle classed radio four people then?``
Me: ``that was the intention, but there are gays in it now``
Callum: ``Gays can't farm``
posted by Ben F. Foster Esq. (c) @ 9:01 AM
18 Comments:
At 12:38 AM,
monty said…
Now it might be your very clever satire and a point I am just not understanding again and being thick but I feel compelled to ask...
Whats the point if any of this post - to dig at callum?
Is callum that naive?
Is this a post thats satirical and I have wildly missed the point again?
Are you anti-gay since you have a lot of anti-gay stuff on your site?
MMMM /discuss
At 8:45 AM,
Ben F. Foster Esq. (c) said…
*sigh*
This, Monty, is called irony. It's different to satire in that whereas satire is more of a structured farsicle argument, irony is just a witicism of ridiculity.
Callum is a great chap, and if it came to it, I could have him if it came to a scrap.
At 10:13 PM,
Ben F. Foster Esq. (c) said…
You think you're all that with your `look at me, I'm the spirit of toast` thing goin' on?
Well listen here, young-sunny-jim-lad-boy0, I got a knee full of news for you...
Your face...
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fact!
At 8:36 AM,
monty said…
*sigh*
Irony and satire only work in context, and at times on this blog you miss the point because you completley forget that your readers come from varying background. understanding and education.
To this degree your then alienating people, and confusing them by your intelligent aloofness. It would appear you don't seem to care about that at times.
At 11:54 AM,
Ben F. Foster Esq. (c) said…
it's not aloof... it's subtle. and subtly makes comedic-omedy...
perhaps I should ddo a directors cooentary on each of my posts
At 2:54 PM,
Laura said…
Blogs aren't for wide audiences! it's not like this is the BBC site and has to be careful to explain everything and not offend anyone. Does there have to be a point to every post? Lighten up! :)
At 7:38 PM,
monty said…
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At 11:48 AM,
Ben F. Foster Esq. (c) said…
I think this comment trhread can be summed up as stupid is as stupid does.
C-Fizzle: In my former life as J-Lo, while shooting a video, i missed and hit a tiger (I still don't know how a tiger got onto my video marksman range) - anyway the moral of the story is tiger.
love benvolio, x
At 11:29 PM,
Unknown said…
i love the archers too!
At 5:48 AM,
Helsalata said…
Point to ponder: just because you find something funny, does that make it funny?
At 10:21 AM,
Ben F. Foster Esq. (c) said…
If humour isn't absolute, then yes.
in which case, because one laughes, the humour is inherant, and so, justifiably `funny`.
At 6:27 AM,
Helsalata said…
So a sadist laughing at someone's pain makes the situation funny?
Although I don't want to put words in Monty's mouth I don't think he gets what you say. If someone asks for clarity, it's because he hasn't got the context in which you are posting. Just like a joke in Swedish may well be funny but I first need a translation and then maybe a cultural insight as to why it's funny. However it isn't funny in the meantime because I don't understand the language or the context.
Of course once those things are explained, I may still mind the joke unfunny...
At 11:32 PM,
Ben F. Foster Esq. (c) said…
Helen, you're far too conservative, I think you need to mellow out at times and see things from other people's perspective for a change.
Re: sadism, is amoral, but does that make it `unfunny`? Against my personal opinion: No. However, something being funny and something being exclusive are fluid lines, and inclusion can sometimes make humour less entertaining
At 6:53 AM,
Helsalata said…
Well that's the first time I've been called conservative!
Somehow I'm wondering if maybe maybe you're getting your terms mixed?
At 7:07 AM,
Ben F. Foster Esq. (c) said…
RARGH!
If one more grown up doesn't understand when dear old blogettyblog is being sarcarstic I'll eat my La!
At 7:24 AM,
Helsalata said…
All we're saying is set the context! We maybe don't get the culture references?
At 6:39 PM,
Ben F. Foster Esq. (c) said…
so you want me to annotate my posts with highlightings that relate to sarcasm, irony or any other form of subtlety?
My blog would become Friends!
*BEGENNING OF SARCASM*
-Please note any portrayal in this subparagraph is prone to bouts of sarcasm and as such should not be taken literally. Thank you for your cooperation with this-
I think it's good that there's a push for transparent text. It means there's not depth to writing and makes the reader entirely placid while the writer is a mere parrot to his/her observations.
Such dangerous concepts such as irony serve ONLY to confuse the populus and alienate all who read, and are the exact reason why wars are started.
*END OF SARCASM*
-Please resume normal reading-
At 6:40 AM,
Helsalata said…
It would stop the misunderstandings!
Anyhow, Monty's first post sums up quite well an (older) outsider's impressions on this post may well be. If he/we are wrong then maybe we are just wrong, you can either ignore us as a readership or try the hints suggested to stop misunderstandings. If you don't give two hoots then carry on in the manner you do; it doesn't matter either way...
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